Tucker Carlson sat down with NewsNation anchor Chris Cuomo for talk between the two former rivals, both of whom were dumped by their networks.
Cuomo was fired by CNN in December 2021 over allegations that he used his position to help his brother, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo who was beset by a series of sexual misconduct allegations that led to his downfall, and he opened up to Carlson about his being “sh*tcanned” by his longtime employer.
“We are stuck in a game that’s about nothing but advantage,” Cuomo said. “And, I had time to think about all this when I got sh*tcanned, and to go back and look at what I had been about and what I had done and what I had not done and if I were gonna come back, because you’re tougher than I am. Not physically, I would literally twist you like a band-aid,” the muscular anchor joked, drawing laughter from Carlson.
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“I call it the game. You and I have been in the game for a long time,” he told Tucker early in the epic two hour discussion. “And whether you like it or not, whether you mean it or not, you wind up playing the game. You can, especially with the platform that you had, you wind up essentially picking sides, and you wind up having agendas either that present themselves to you or foisted upon you.”
“But either way, you wind up in the same place. And in doing that, it becomes habit. It’s what people are celebrating around you. It’s what you see around you. People start to come after you,” he said. “Now you have a natural enemy. These people, I’m resistant to them because they’re attacking what I’m saying, and they’re getting it wrong, or they’re getting it right, and I still don’t like it. That’s the culture and that’s what the media enforces. We are not supposed to be doing this. I am doing something bad right now. Not just wrong. This is bad.”
The two also discussed the family relationship with Carlson expressing his opinion that loyalty to his brother was of great importance.
We laid it all out: when I was fired, when Tucker was fired, how we both felt about it and handled it…and that’s just where we begin. pic.twitter.com/gAbOOgRFiF
— Christopher C. Cuomo (@ChrisCuomo) March 12, 2024
“One way in which I really sympathize with you and I said this in public, at the time, is that you were attacked and I don’t know the details, I’m not going to ask you to reveal them, but felt like you were fired because you remained close to your brother who was governor of New York and he was going through a bunch of stuff. He left office and you were still talking to him and you, like, you weren’t allowed to,” Carlson said.
“And my take on it from a distance, knowing neither you nor your brother was, you got to stick with your brother, it’s your brother, and that obligation supersedes all others because that’s your family. That’s like a moral obligation,” he added.
“People feel differently about family. Which was somewhat of a new concept for me,” Cuomo said. “I had a big shot media person say to me in an interview on their platform, I would not have helped my brother, not if it would have conflicted with my ethical obligations as a journalist.”
The interview also aired on NewsNation, and can be seen here.
The Carlson-Cuomo interview is a must-watch for valuable insight into “the game” and how it’s played.
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