Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick revealed during a podcast interview this week that deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was once his neighbor for around 10 years and that this was how he discovered how the dead creep earned his money.
“We are in [unit] number 11 and he lives in number nine,” Lutnick told New York Post columnist Miranda Devine on her “Pod Force One” podcast. “We move in in 2005. Jeffrey Epstein is arrested in
like 2008, I think, or something like that.”
Guess what happened next …
“So, knock on the door, his assistant on like a Saturday says, ‘Mr. Epstein, uh, your neighbor would like to invite you over for coffee,'” Lutnick recalled.
“So my wife and I go next door, you know, we walk the seven steps to the next house for coffee. … He invites us in. We have coffee. And he says, ‘Do you want a tour?’ We said, ‘Great.’ He’s got really big house,” he added.
The visit went off the rails though when Epstein seemingly hit on Lutnick — no joke.
So he gives me a tour in the living room — big living room — and then across from it is double doors,” the Commerce Secretary recalled. “I assume it’s the dining room. And he opens the doors and there’s a massage table in the middle of the room and candles all around and stuff.”
Uh oh …
“So I ask very insightful cutting questions,” Lutnick continued. “I say to him, ‘Massage table in the middle of your house? How often you have a massage?’ And he says, ‘Every day.’ And then he, like, gets like weirdly close to me and he says, ‘And the right kind of massage.'”
Neither Lutnick nor his wife cared for Epstein’s “gross” behavior.
“Now my wife is standing here,” he explained. “So she looks at me, and I look at her, and we say, ‘I’m sorry. We have to go.’ And we left. And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.”
Shocked by Lutnick’s disturbing story, Devine then asked him how it is that other rich and powerful people “could hang around him [Epstein] and not see what you saw, or did they see it and ignore it?”
“They participated,” the Commerce Secretary asserted. “That’s what his MO was, you know: Get a massage, and what happened in that massage room, I assume, was on video. This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. Blackmail people — that’s how he had money.”
“So what happened to those videos?” Devine pushed back. “Why is there now such a dearth of information when, you know, Donald Trump’s people are running the FBI and the DOJ?”
“I assume way back when they traded those videos in exchange for him getting that 18-month sentence, which allowed him to have visits and be out of jail,” Lutnick replied. “I mean, he’s a serial sex offender. How could he get 18 months and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff?”
“It must have been a trade. So my assumption, I have no knowledge, but my assumption is there was a trade for the videos because there were people on those videos,” he added.
Note that these bombshell remarks contract the Trump administration’s dubious assertion that there’s no evidence to corroborate the claim that Epstein had trafficked his victims to other people.
JUST IN – U.S. DOJ and FBI joint Epstein memo: “There was no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions.” pic.twitter.com/PLtelJsIQz
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) July 7, 2025
“And have you talked to Donald Trump about this and shared your theory? Devine then asked.
“No, I mean, he knows the story,” Lutnick replied. “But like my story that I was one and done with the guy. He knows that story, but that’s it.”
So President Donald Trump knows about Lutnick’s bad experience with Epstein but hasn’t been briefed on the blackmail theory?
“He would have been interested in that story,”Devine noted.
“I don’t know,” Lutnick replied. “It’s a story. It’s just a one and done – that guy, yuck.”
“And did Trump feel the same way about him?” Devine pressed.
“I don’t know. I don’t speak to him about these kind of… These are just distractions,” Lutnick replied.
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V. Saxena is a staff writer with a decade of experience as a professional writer, and a lifetime of experience as an avid news junkie. He holds a degree in computer technology from Purdue University. Saxena also contributes to BizPac Review.
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