Dr. Nicole Saphier, Sen. Rand Paul blast Fauci for not acknowledging COVID natural immunity

(Video: Fox News)

A 2004 video of Dr. Anthony Fauci espousing the virtues of natural immunity in the fight against the flu has resurfaced, prompting Dr. Nicole Saphier and Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) to again point out that Fauci has continued to ignore natural immunity when it comes to COVID-19.

When asked if a woman who has had the flu for 14 days should get the flu shot, Fauci responded, “Well, no. If she’s had the flu for 14 days, she’s as protected as anyone can be, because the best vaccination is to get it yourself.”

“She doesn’t need [the flu shot],” Fauci continued, “because the most potent vaccination is getting infected yourself.”

“What changed?” host Will Cain asked Fox News medical contributor Dr. Nicole Saphier on “Fox & Friends” Saturday.

“The thing that I can say that was likely a more honest Dr. Fauci who followed the science a bit more,” Saphier said after viewing the video.

Saphier noted that Fauci’s “entanglement” with EcoHealth Alliance over alleged gain-of-function research at the now infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology in China may have influenced Fauci during the course of the pandemic.

“The entire pandemic has been politicized,” Saphier said. “But, when it comes to natural immunity, we have to remember it comes in two parts here. So, first of all, just because you have been infected by one variant or strain of influenza virus or Coronavirus, that doesn’t mean it will protect from you future variants and strains.”

“However, that being said, natural immunity itself, you are exposed to the entire virus. So you have more of a robust and a universal response,” the doctor explained. “When you get vaccinated, that’s more of a targeted area of the virus.”

Regardless of just how effective natural immunity is, Saphier believes Fauci should acknowledge its benefits.

“The biggest problem here that I have had with Dr. Fauci and the CDC and others is that they have not acknowledged natural immunity when we know that immunity does provide some protection,” Saphier said. “Early on, it was an unknown how long that protection would be and how strong it would be. But we are two years into this now, and we have over 200 studies demonstrating the protection from natural immunity.”

“Two more studies just came out this week from Sweden and Qatar showing that reinfection and severity of illness is markedly decreased with natural immunity, up to 20 months after infection. And also they show that with the alpha and delta variants, it is very strong with Omicron,” she added.

When asked if pharmaceutical industry ties could be the reason behind Fauci’s reluctance to discuss natural immunity, Saphier stated that she’s unaware of anything regarding his ties to pharma, but noted that the White House has had “tunnel vision” with respect to pushing the vaccine.

“I can tell you as medical professional scientists we do have to disclose any industry ties. There is nothing anything blatantly obvious that I’m aware of from Dr. Fauci and his ties to pharma,” Dr. Saphier said. “But I can tell you that the message out of White House, the mantra has been vaccination, vaccination, vaccination. They have such tunnel vision that they, in my opinion, if they deviated off of that by even acknowledging natural immunity, they felt that would cause some people not to get the vaccines and, unfortunately, that’s a problem. That’s a big problem.”

According to Saphier, it is time for Fauci to step down.

“This isn’t about punishment,” she said. “This is about accountability. Holding those accountable who had decision-making authority. It’s time for Dr. Fauci to retire at this point. We know he has been heavily influenced by his ties. But I go further and call on CDC Director Walensky to retire at this point. They have demonstrated they are pliable and heavily influenced politically. That is not what this country needs moving forward.”

(Video: Fox News)

On Friday’s episode of Fox News’s “The Ingraham Angle,” Sen. Rand Paul — who is also a medical doctor — said the benefits of natural immunity “used to be common sense and it used to not be controversial.”

“The truth of the matter is this,” Paul said. “If you look at what they’ve been doing, they’ve been suppressing any knowledge of what happens to people like myself who are not vaccinated by have been infected, but it turns out, not only is my protection as good as the vaccine, it may be two times as good as the vaccine.”


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