Piers Morgan lectures Fox News hosts on ‘The Five’: ‘Guns do kill people’

British journalist and TV host Piers Morgan wrangled with Fox News hosts over U.S. gun laws in a heated debate following a mass shooting in Maine.

In the argument that unfolded on Thursday’s “The Five,” Morgan lectured Jesse Watters and the Fox News panel, insisting that “Guns do kill people.”

“When Americans hear the word ‘control,’ they think instinctively, ‘federal government control,’ and it alienates any chance of any compromise. ‘Gun safety’ is the way this should be debated,” Morgan said as the manhunt continues for Robert Card who is accused of killing 18 people and wounding 13 others in Lewiston, Maine, on Wednesday night.

“How do you make it safer? How do you stop these loopholes, these guys slipping through the net? This is obviously a catastrophic failure. In Maine, they have yellow flags, not red flags. Why? Why? Why don’t you just have a red flag system all over the country? You have 400 million-plus guns in circulation, a million new guns are sold every month in America,” Morgan exclaimed.

“This problem’s gonna get worse, not better,” he predicted, continuing his lecture.

“And at some point, as your friend, you know, the great ally, I simply say you’ve got to do something more to stop this. You can’t keep having the Groundhog Day of these people with these semiautomatic rifles going into civilian areas and gunning people to pieces. Can you?” he demanded.

“As your friend, respectfully. We have these guns because of you,” Watters shot back. “Because of your country, because of your king. And we haven’t had that problem since then. Respectfully, as your friend.”

“I know, I know” Morgan replied, giving examples of banned items like chocolates.

“With respect, do forks make people fat?” Watters queried, prompting Morgan to respond, “Well they do don’t they?”

“Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Forks don’t make you fat,” Watters pointed out.

“Guns do kill people,” Morgan insisted.

“Forks don’t make you fat,” Watters fired back.

The back and forth was interrupted eventually as co-host Brian Kilmeade updated on the latest in the manhunt for the Maine shooter.

“About our system,” he said as he weighed in on the discussion Morgan and Watters had.

“This guy’s gonna get a gun, regardless. This guy’s a military guy, knows how to get ’em,” he said of the suspected gunman. “But there was a system in place to stop him. He was institutionalized…when he got out, they did not take his guns away.”

The discussion continued as the panel brought up differences between red flag and yellow flag laws as well as thoughts about family members or others who must have known about Card’s mental state.

Below is the fuller Fox News clip for the full discussion:


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