Trump tells Kristen Welker he doesn’t think about going to jail – won’t rule out self-pardon if elected

Former President Donald Trump revealed this weekend that he isn’t an iota afraid of going to jail over all the indictments he’s facing.

Sitting down from an interview with “Meet the Press,” he was bluntly asked by host Kristen Welker whether he worries about going to jail.

He replied with a “yuge” no.


No, I don’t really. I don’t even think about it. I’m built a little differently, I guess. Because I have had people come up to me and ask me ‘how do you do it, sir?’ I don’t even think about it,” he said before going on to attack the people after him.

“These are corrupt people that I’m dealing with. They’re destroying our country. All I think about is making the country great, making America great. Look, these are banana republic indictments. These are third-world indictments,” he continued.

“The president of the United States sees how we’re doing — we have a movement the likes of which has never happened before in this country before. And you see it in the polls. … You almost say, why are they campaigning? Asa Hutchinson, he’s at zero. Christie’s at zero. Other ones are at one. DeSanctimonious is at nine. I mean I’m leading him by 60 points, and you say why are they doing it?” he added.

Later during the interview, Welker asked him whether he intends to pardon himself if he’s elected president. He replied with a very long answer in which he suggested it’s the “last thing” he’d ever do but didn’t entirely rule it out.


“I could’ve pardoned myself. Do you know what? I was given an option to pardon myself. I could’ve pardoned myself when I left. People said, ‘Would you like to pardon yourself?’ I had a couple of attorneys that said, ‘You can do it if you want.’ I had some people that said, ‘It would look bad, if you do.’ Because I think it would look terrible. I said here’s the story. These people are thugs, horrible people, fascists, Marxists, sick people. They’ve been after me from the day I came down the escalator with Melania. And I did a great job as president,” he said.

“People are — great economy, great jobs, great this, great that, rebuilt the military, Space Force, everything. We — I could go on forever. Let me just tell you. I said, ‘The last thing I’d ever do is give myself a pardon.’ I could’ve given myself a pardon. Don’t ask me about what I would do. I could’ve. The last day, I could’ve had a pardon done that would’ve saved me all of these lawyers, and all of these fake charges, these Biden indictments. They’re all Biden indictments, political. They indicted — they want to arrest their political opponents,” he added.

“Only third-world countries do that, banana republics. So, ready? I never said this to anybody. I was given the option. I could’ve done a pardon of myself. You know what I said? ‘I have no interest in even thinking about it.’ I never even wanted to think about it. And I could’ve done it. And all of these questions you’re asking me about, the fake charges, you wouldn’t be asking me because it’s a very powerful, it’s a very powerful thing for a president. I was told by some people that these are sick lunatics that I’m dealing with. ‘Give yourself a pardon. Your life will be a lot easier.’ I said, ‘I would never give myself a pardon,'” he continued.

Welker responded by drawing his attention away from before 2020 and asking him specifically about 2024 and beyond.

“Even if you were re-elected in this moment?” she inquired.

“Oh, I think it’s very unlikely. What — what did I do wrong? I didn’t do anything wrong. You mean because I challenged an election, they want to put me in jail? I challenged an election. But, I challenged a crooked election,” he replied.

One of the bigger interview revelations occurred when Trump said he’s willing to testify in court that he never allowed the security footage at Mar-a-Lago to be deleted — which is one of the key aspects of the classified documents indictment.


“A new charge suggests you asked a staffer to delete security camera footage so it wouldn’t get into the hands of investigators. Did you do that?” Welker asked him.

“That’s false,” Trump replied.

“Would you testify to that under oath?” Welker then pressed.

“Sure. I’m going to. I’ll testify. … It’s a fake charge by this deranged lunatic prosecutor, who lost in the Supreme Court nine to nothing. And he tried to destroy lots of lives. He’s a lunatic. So it’s a fake charge. But, more importantly, the tapes weren’t deleted. In other words, there was nothing done to them,” he responded.

“And they were my tapes. I could’ve fought them. I didn’t even have to give them the tapes, I don’t think. I think I would have won in court. When they asked for the tapes, I said, “Sure.” They’re my tapes. I could have fought them. I didn’t even have to give them. Just so you understand, though, we didn’t delete anything. Nothing was deleted,” Trump continued.

During the course of the interview, Trump also indicated he likes “the concept” of a female vice president, slammed Republicans for pushing abortion bans that contain no exceptions, and slammed the United Auto Workers union over their corrupt leadership.

Vivek Saxena


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