Former White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre’s book tour has managed to produce a moment of unity, much to her chagrin.
Both sides of the political aisle are joining forces to ridicule KJP’s New Yorker interview. The embarrassing event took place while she was promoting her new book Independent: A Look Inside a Broken White House, Outside the Party Lines.
Journalist Isaac Chotiner pressed KJP on her decision to leave the Democratic Party, at which time she also accused senior party members of strong-arming her former boss, President Joe Biden, out of the 2024 presidential race. The former press secretary’s response was shockingly bad.
“You feel like you had to leave the Democratic Party because of the way it treated Joe Biden. How did it treat Joe Biden?” Chotiner asked, looking for specifics.
“I call it a betrayal,” Jean-Pierre said, adding, “It was an all-out, full-on campaign to embarrass him, to push him out. And I just thought to myself, Wow, you don’t have that much time left this election year. And I thought to myself, This man is one of the most decent people that I know.”
“You lay out very clearly why you think Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. And, at the same time, you are suggesting that what happened in those three weeks was so serious that you had to leave the Democratic Party, even at this moment of grave threat. You said that the Party was trying to undermine Biden. What do you think they were doing and why?” the journalist probed, unsatisfied by her previous answer.
“Well, I mean, I just laid it out. I just said that there was an obvious campaign. You just had to watch,” she responded, not giving any additional information.
“Sure, but why were they doing that?” he asked.
“Because they believed that he needed to step aside. There’s more to this than just that period of time. This is very layered, right? There’s a period of time that I questioned what was happening and how do we treat our own, how do we treat people who are decent people? And then you also have to think about how I’m thinking about this as a Black woman who is part of the L.G.B.T.Q. community, and living in this time where I also don’t think Democrats right now, Democrats’ leadership, is protecting vulnerable people in the way that it should,” KJP answered, defaulting to her own identity politics instead of answering the question.
At this point, Chotiner said what we are all thinking.
“Sorry, I’m not trying to be dense. I’m a little unclear about what this has to do with Democratic leaders and many Democrats in the country thinking that Joe Biden was going to lose to Donald Trump—which was what the polls all showed—and therefore thinking that he should be replaced,” he noted.
“O.K., wait a minute. Hold on a second. Nobody knows anything. Nobody knows what would’ve happened. People also thought that if you replace Joe Biden, we were going to win, or have a better chance of winning. Millions of people who showed up in 2020 didn’t show up in 2024. We can’t forget that there was an incumbency issue as well. This is real. There are, like, several G-10 countries with incumbents who did not get reëlected. There was an incumbency issue as well,” Biden’s former press secretary rambled, still unable to provide any real facts.
And the rest of the interview doesn’t go any better. It was so bad that even Atlantic writer Jonathan Chait wondered how she got her White House job “in the first place.”
This is an interview that should inspire some follow-up reporting: how was KJP hired for her job in the first place? https://t.co/Jxady8tuel
— Jonathan Chait (@jonathanchait) October 28, 2025
It’s like referring to yourself as “AANHPI”
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) October 28, 2025
As bad as the “I knew we were in trouble” post-mortems tend to be post-election generally, Karine Jean-Pierre just comes across as…a total fucking idiot. https://t.co/PMVlsJEHxp
— Elijah Sarkesian (@elijahsarkesian) October 28, 2025
I’m still tickled by Karine Jean-Pierre’s interview with the New Yorker. That was catastrophic lmao. How she tried to use her identity to poorly explain her way out of bullshit? Masterclass in how to sound like a fool. Sorry, but we have to be blunt about this.
— Quenchi (@QueRedux) October 28, 2025
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