Colleague Jennifer Griffin scolds The Five hosts for conversation about Biden’s urgency in Ukraine

Following President Biden’s insistence Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin will invade Ukraine, “The Five” hosts Greg Gutfeld and Kennedy suggested the urgency in Ukraine may be a way to refocus America’s attention away from recent bombshell revelations from John Durham’s investigation — a notion Fox New National Security Correspondent Jennifer Griffin wants to dispel.

The exchange, while providing fodder for liberal media to accuse conservatives of needing tin foil again, echoed the thoughts of many Americans who are trying to make sense of an explosive report that could demolish what’s left of the Democratic Party’s credibility, while needing to trust that we aren’t about to enter a “wag-the-dog” war with Russia.

In other words, it’s the kind of exchange that happens when people have lost their trust in both the media and the administration.

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“I don’t know what to believe, because they also had some interesting intel on Afghanistan,” stated Gutfeld.

“When he said it was hard to read Putin’s mind, I get that.  So why don’t you just ask him? You know what I mean. There’s always the psychological barriers in these things. Why don’t you just ask him what’s on his mind and just sit there? This is what we did with North Korea,” he continued. “Trump de-escalated a psychological threat by actually asking the dude, ‘What’s your problem?’ He removed a psychological threat from the table: ‘ Look. America would love for you to join the rest of the world and not be an aggressive tyrant, but we’re not planning on blowing you up, so maybe you could point your missiles somewhere else?’ You have to remove this psychological barrier. It would be interesting — there’s only one person you need to talk to. It’s Putin. It is prudent. Ask him. Let him talk.”

“There is something going on here that feels very, very manufactured. I don’t know what it is, but it just seems to me…” he added before being interrupted.

And that’s when Kennedy jumped in with her controversial take on the situation.

“I know what it is,” Kennedy stated. “It’s Jake Sullivan.”

Sullivan is President Joe Biden’s National Security Advisor and, according to Fox News, the unnamed “foreign policy advisor” in the indictment of former Clinton lawyer, Michael Sussman.

“Jake Sullivan is the national security advisor,” Kennedy continued. “And he is in deep yogurt in the Durham probe, and he’s been the one saying, ‘We have so much intelligence and an invasion is imminent.’ He said that last Friday. It’s the next Friday. Here we are.”

“I don’t think Putin is going to invade,” she added, “and I don’t understand why we are running point when Germany is the one who has got the most invested. They’ve got the energy relationship with Russia. Russia needs their money, they need their market. Therefore, with a new chancellor, he should make his mark on the rest of Europe and cool things down with Russia.”

“He has got a much better shot than the dumb-dumb’s in this administration, who blew it in 2014 and they’re going to blow it again. And I know that because Kamala Harris is the point person. She’s going to be repetitive. She’s going to say the same thing over and over again, betraying her lack of knowledge on the entire situation. She’s just gonna go, ‘We stand together. We are standing together. Here we are together, standing,” she said.

“Don’t forget the hashtag,” Gutfeld joked. “There’s got to be a hashtag.”

But Jennifer Griffin, brought in for her reaction, didn’t see any of it as a joking matter.

“First of all, I need to level set with the conversation I’ve just been listening to,” Griffin stated. “What we are witnessing right now is not something that’s changed in the last 24 hours. If you go back to notes that I’ve been sending out for the last two weeks, this is something we’ve been watching in terms of — You have commercial satellite imagery, you have the buildup of forces, the type of forces, the  numbers of forces, things that we’ve been told in advance to look for in terms of some of the disinformation that is already starting to appear, the false flag operations in the Donbas region. All of that is ticking up.”

“I’ve heard comparisons to the Iraq war, and WMD, and how do we know?” she continued. “We’re seeing it with our own eyes. If you can’t look at the kind of the Iskander missle battalions that are now in Belarus [and] 30,000 Russian troops there — Half of [Putin’s} air force has now been deployed toward Ukraine. I am just told moments ago from a senior defense official that 40% of his 190,000 troops who are on the border with Ukraine are now in attack positions. That is something we have been waiting for.”

Griffin stressed that the threat from Russia is real, and Durham doesn’t change that fact.

“Right now, every American should be watching this and knowing that this is deadly serious,” she said. “This is not some wag-the-dog situation. To even mention the Durham probe in the same sentence as what we know, and what we can see with our own eyes in terms of the military buildup and knowing what Vladimir Putin is capable of — I served in Moscow from 1996 to ’99. I watched as Vladimir Putin rose. I remember the apartment blocks that were blown up by his KGB, his FSB, as a pretext to go into Chechnya. Go look at those images of Chechnya and how carpet-bombed Chechnya was when the Russian military moves in.”

“This is not a precision, small pinpointed strike,” she added. “This will be the full weight of the Russian military going into Ukraine if someone doesn’t stop it in the coming days.”

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