Tucker to Joe Rogan: ‘Members of Congress are terrified of intel agencies. They’ve told me that’

Tucker Carlson sat down with podcasting king Joe Rogan for a talk between two of the most influential figures in American media and it was as provocative as could be expected.

Carlson, who has been everywhere since his ouster from Fox News, joined Rogan on the latest edition of his Spotify podcast “The Joe Rogan Experience” for one of the extended, wide-ranging discussions that he’s become famous for with very little being off the table, including alien life forms and the evolving menace of AI.

But it was Carlson’s “bone-chilling” comments that members of Congress are under the control of unelected intelligence agencies and that lawmakers are compromised over their perverted sex lives that make them subject to blackmail, that stunned Rogan.

“Members of Congress are terrified of the intel agencies. I’m not guessing at that, they’ve told me that, including people on the intel committee, including people who run the intel committee,” he said. “Including people whose job it is to oversee and keep in line these enormous secretive agencies whose budgets we can’t even know, their ‘black budgets.’ They’re the parents, the agencies are the children.”

“They’re afraid of the agencies,” Carlson stated. “That’s not compatible with democracy. Democracy is a pretty simple system, even representative democracy like ours. The people rule. They do so though elections, they express their preference through voting. They send their people to the capital city to run the government on their behalf.”

“Whenever you have unelected people who are not accountable to anyone making the decisions, you don’t have a democracy,” Carlson correctly noted. “You have something else, another system, I would call it a tyranny, or whatever you want to call it, it’s not a democracy.”

“So that’s like super obvious. It’s playing out in front of everyone and no one cares and no one does anything about it, and I think the reason is because they’re threatened,” he argued. “And if you look at the committee chairmen who allow this sh*t to happen year after year… they all have things to hide, I know that for a fact.”

“It’s not impossible to imagine that some guy with a drinking problem or a weird sex life, and that’s very common, very common up there, that’s why they’re doing it, they don’t want to be exposed,” he said, adding that he doesn’t have proof but that “it’s not a crazy thing to assume that could be happening.”

“And I said to somebody, a very powerful person, the other day, in a conversation in my kitchen, an elected official — holds a really senior position, a very famous person, I was going crazy,” Carlson continued. “I was so mad about all this stuff and about the warrantless spying and about the funding for these insane wars, and I said to the guy who serves in one of the legislative bodies, I got so mad my dogs were afraid…”

“But I was like, ‘All these people are controlled. They’ve all got weird sex lives, and all these things they’re hiding, and they’re being blackmailed by the intel agencies.’ And he said, and I’m quoting, ‘I know.’ I was like, okay, so at this point, we’re just sort of admitting that’s real? Like, why do we allow that to continue?” Carlson asked.

His remarks are of particular interest given the abrupt shift of Speaker Mike Johnson who was against Ukraine funding before he was for it. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) recently suggested that the top congressional Republican may be the victim of blackmailing during an appearance on Carlson’s X show.

“Mike Johnson has made a complete departure of who he is and what he stands for, to the point where people are literally asking is he being blackmailed — what is wrong with him — because he’s completely disconnected with what we want,” she said.

Chris Donaldson


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