A new book by ABC News’s Jon Karl contains explosive details from a January 6 phone call where the president let loose.
The left’s obsession with the events of Jan. 6, 2021, has been documented in yet another book, Retribution, written by Karl and published by ABC News, and a preview of that work has been made public. It details how, as Vice President Mike Pence made moves to certify the 2020 presidential election, thereby legitimizing the election of former President Joe Biden, the current president had some thoughts on the situation.
President Donald Trump dialed up his then-VP, but his concerns ended up falling on deaf ears. At the time, Trump was publicly calling into question the results of the election that saw Biden victorious.
“If you do that, I made a big mistake 5 years ago,” Trump said the morning of the “Save America” rally, as corroborated by Pence’s notes, which have been published in the book.
“You’ll go down as a wimp,” the president warned, adding, “You listen to the wrong people.”
“You’re not protecting our country, you’re supposed to support + defend our country,” read Pence’s notes. “I said we both [took] an oath to support + defend the Constitution. It doesn’t take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law.”
This account appears to be backed up in a taped deposition of former Trump assistant Nicholas Luna.
“I remember hearing the word ‘wimp.’ Either he called him a wimp, I don’t remember if he said, ‘You are a wimp, you’ll be a wimp.’ Wimp is the word I remember,” Luna explained.
Pence’s notes were also used in Jack Smith’s 2023 indictment of Trump:
“During the meeting, as reflected in the Vice President’s contemporaneous notes, the Defendant [Trump] made knowingly false claims of election fraud, including, ‘Bottom line—won every state by 100,000s of votes’ and ‘We won every state,’ and asked—regarding a claim his senior Justice Department officials previously had told him was false, including as recently as the night before—’What about 205,000 votes more in PA than voters?’ The Defendant and Co-Conspirator 2 then asked the Vice President to either unilaterally reject the legitimate electors from the seven targeted states, or send the question of which slate was legitimate to the targeted states’ legislatures. When the Vice President challenged Co-Conspirator 2 on whether the proposal to return the question to the states was defensible, Co-Conspirator 2 responded, ‘Well, nobody’s tested it before.’ The Vice President then told the Defendant, ‘Did you hear that? Even your own counsel is not saying I have that authority.’ The Defendant responded, ‘That’s okay, I prefer the other suggestion’ of the Vice President rejecting the electors unilaterally.”
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Sierra Marlee is a millennial whose hunger for the truth in a world of fake news has led her to write. Marlee also contributes to BizPac Review.
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