‘That’s the dog not barking’: Greg Gutfeld is ‘clear’ on national security state driving censorship

The name “Mike Benz” is quickly becoming a household one, thanks to an explosive interview he did with Tucker Carlson in which he detailed the what, why, and when of online censorship.

“What I’m essentially describing is military rule,” Benz told Carlson. “I mean what’s happened with the rise of the censorship industry is a total inversion of the idea of democracy itself.”

The eye-popping interview has racked up more than 25 million views on X since it dropped on Friday.

In it, Benz, who once “had the cyber portfolio at the State Department,” according to Carlson, explained that “2016 was really the first time that social media had reached such maturity that it began to eclipse legacy media.”

After that, an “uncensored, mature [social media] ecosystem allowed citizen journalists and independent voices to be able to outcompete legacy news media,” Benz said. “This induced a massive crisis both in our military and in our State Department and intelligence services.”

The complicit role of legacy media in serving as “gatekeepers” and “bumper cars on democracy” that Benz describes is enough to make even an “Operation Mockingbird” aficionado’s head explode.

And Fox News host Greg Gutfeld wants to know if legacy media will “even try to debunk any of this?”

“Damn,” Gutfeld wrote on X. “This is the clearest description I’ve ever heard of the events of the last ten years. Will the legacy media even try to debunk any of this?”

“That’s the dog not barking,” he stated.

According to Benz, “our mainstream media is not in any shape or form, even from its outset, independent from the national security state, from the State Department, from the War Department.”

“You know,  all of the initial, broadcast news companies — NBC, ABC, and CBS — were all created by Office of War Information veterans from the from the War Department’s effort in World War II,” he continued. “You had these Operation Mockingbird relationships from the 1950s through the 1970s.”

“They continued it through the use of the National Endowment for Democracy and the privatization of intelligence capacities in the 1980s under Reagan,” Benz said. “There’s all sorts of CIA reading room memos you can read, even on CIA.gov, about those continued media relations throughout the 1990s.”

“And so,” he stated, “you always had this backdoor relationship between The Washington Post, The New York Times, and all of the major broadcast media corporations.”


As BPR Insider reported, Benz explains in the must-see interview that “the entire concept of free speech on the internet was an instrument of statecraft almost from the outset of the privatization of the internet in 1991.”

Independent presidential hopeful Robert Kennedy Jr. called it, “One of the most remarkable interviews ever.”

“Dilbert” creator Scott Adams described it as a “mushroom trip.”

“This is the most extraordinary thing I have ever seen,” he wrote on X. “I’m not exaggerating. This is like a mushroom trip without the mushrooms.”

“Clear your schedule tonight and listen together,” he urged his followers. “In a week, everyone who has not listened to this will look like an idiot to everyone who has. 2024 is wild.”

TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk said, it will “blow your mind.”

“Watch it twice or three times,” he suggested. “The rabbit hole goes way deeper than you know.”

And, according to Lou Dobbs, Benz and Tucker “may have just saved the Republic.”

Benz’s revelations are already altering people’s perception of the news.

Adam’s later quoted pollster Frank Luntz’s claim that a “whopping 75.85% of traffic from X to its advertising clients’ websites during the weekend of the Super Bowl was fake.”

“After the Mike Benz revelations,” Adams wrote on X, “this story doesn’t look organic to me.”

Melissa Fine

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